Plastic grocery bags: No tax on them by city hall

Those ubiquitous plastic grocery bags drew some discussion at City Hall Monday, with the city’s environmental guy squaring off with a bag maker about how toxic (or not) the bags are, according to a DMN story. Eric Griffin, the city’s interim Office of Environmental Quality director, asked the council to consider eliminating the use of plastic grocery-type bags over a five-year period, primarily by levying a five-cent fee to discourage use and banning them completely if the fee didn’t work. But councilman Linda Koop, chair of the council committee discussing the issue, flat-out told Griffin she didn’t favor taxing the bags. Meanwhile, Griffin and a Hilex vice president (Hilex is one of the world’s largest bag producers) argued about whether the bags are toxic and how quickly they break down in the environment. One interesting tidbit: Those of us who are putting the plastic bags in the city’s blue recycling bags apparently are creating work for city employees. Since the grocery bags aren’t recyclable, they’re being sorted out of the blue bags and shipped to the landfill instead. In the end, Koop and omni-present councilman Ron Natinsky agreed that something needs to be done, perhaps requiring that a certain percentage of the grocery bags be manufactured from recycled material.

5 Responses to Plastic grocery bags: No tax on them by city hall

  1. Farinata X says:

    Something indeed needs to be done. How about shipping Natinsky to the landfill to help separate those bags?

  2. Quentin Mendoza says:

    Does this mean that, despite what’s printed on the bag, they are 100% non-recyclable or is it just that the city isn’t set up to recycle them?
    Albertson’s on Mockingbird has a bin where you recycle plastic bags. I asked someone there where they were sent to be recycled, but she didn’t know. Does anyone know where Albertson’s sends them?

  3. Kim says:

    At least some plastic grocery bags say they are #2 plastic. Regarding plastics, the city says you can recyle “Only containers with the recycling symbol for numbers 1-7” but “NO plastic bags”. I wonder what gives.
    By looking up this info, I just learned styrofoam containers can be recycled here – that’s excellent.

  4. dallas says:

    Really, the mass production of plastics is a real issue. And one that we in America can easily externalize. An example of the problem might be that here are huge dead zones in all of the oceans covered in plastic. There is a dead zone in the pacific that is now three times the size of Texas -completely plastic wrapped. Further, the new “Degradable” plastics are just as bad or worse than the non-degradable stuff. The degradable plastics don’t actually disappear, rather they just break apart into smaller and smaller pieces. Sounds great right? Until you realize that this plastic is broken down and eaten by plankton in the ocean. This poisons the number one food for the entire world. Everything in the ocean lives on plankton. And because so much of human economy is gained by harvesting the oceans resources, this will cause a crippling effect on many cultures -rich and poor- throughout the world.
    So why isn’t this more of an issue? Its because it is very difficult to explain the problems of plastic wrapping the earth in a thirty second TV interview while Sean Hannity is yelling at you. Personally my wife and I have been “Plastic Bag Free” for over two years now. We keep our cloth bags in the trunk of our car and they are ready to go whenever we go to the store. No need to remember them, they are already in the car. My wife goes a step further and doesn’t use any cosmetics with plastic balls used for exfoliant.
    For a non-30 second look into the world of plastic, check out
    “Polymers are forever”
    http://www.orionmagazine.org/index.php/articles/article/270
    ““Plastic is still plastic. The material still remains a polymer. Polyethylene is not biodegraded in any practical time scale. There is no mechanism in the marine environment to biodegrade that long a molecule.” Even if photodegradable nets help marine mammals live, he concluded, their powdery residue remains in the sea, where the filter feeders will find it.
    “EXCEPT FOR A SMALL AMOUNT that’s been incinerated,” says Tony Andrady the oracle, “every bit of plastic manufactured in the world for the last fifty years or so still remains. It’s somewhere in the environment.” ”

  5. todd says:

    I found a great alternative, it’s a reusable bag. Check it out at http://www.TheBestBag.org

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